I really liked this chapter because alot of neat things went on. The only thing I was a bit confused by was how he is the only one that can hear Robin Wednesbury when she thinks and stuff and gives him her advice. You would think that everyone around them could hear what was being thought of by Robin. But I like how he is finally taking real action and getting down to the answer for who on the Vorga left him. -Marissa Kosko-Blyler
Pg 145-"The twenty-fifth century had not yet abolished God,but it had abolished organized religion." This angered me when i read it, because in the furture arent people supposed to become more tolerante? I seems that in this book the furture is worse than the present. No equal rights, no freedom of religion, and theres still war. I would think that in 400 years alot more has been improved, not progressed the wrong way. Also Mr. Trimmer says that the book keeps refering Gully to being Jesus, but Gully seems to be very against religion. Or does that mean Gully will die for someone? -Kathryn Yacobucci
Response: I like the point Kathryn brings up. On just about every page or so, metaphorically or symbolically Gully Foyle is Jesus. There are so many signs that coincidentally link Gully with Jesus. On the other hand, Gully swears His name and seems to do everything against what Jesus would want us to do. The question arrises that what will Gully's fate be and who will have any influence on it. -Nicole Crossman
Response: I agree with Kathryn about how they should be more tolerante. I think we are pretty tolerante about religion now, shouldn't it just get better from here. Maybe some war happened over religion that the book doesn't mention. -Kyle Waite
I think since science is even more crucial to humans in the twenty-fifth century, it is not a suprise that religion was abolished. Scientists and people who are highly religious have very different perspectives on the topic of creation. So in the twenty-fifth century, the scientific people don't want religious people to gather and try to teach any idea other than their own scientific theories. -Casey Pipetti
I like the idea of Gully perhaps dying for someone. I see their points about religion and how scientists and people who are highly religious have different perspectives, but I'm confused about the Scientific People Gully Foyle encounters. They are referred to as the Scientific People, and we've established that scientists and religious people have quite different view points on things like creation, but it seems in the Scientific People are in a way religious. As Mr. Trimmer stated, they tattooed that mask on Gully, along with the name Nomad. Also, their leader's name is Joseph, which also has religious ties. Then, the whole thing with all the o's in everyone's name being the astronomical symbol for their gender. So then would the religious and scientific views differing contradict the beliefs of the Scientific People? - Danielle Heininger
I agree with both Kathryn and Casey. I do believe that in the book Gully is linked to Jesus and i like the point that Gully might die for someone. On the other hand i agree with Casey because i believe science has taken over the future and religion has been passed by and looked on differently.-Taylor Vladic
Pg 147-"Told you I've been studying...preparing for Vorga." Maybe something good may come out of the Vorga revenge. Gully has increased his intelligence by learning to speak better, and hes studying new topics. Since he is becoming smarter hopefully he will realize how stupid, and rude he is and will try to make up for it. This also shows how motivated Gully is. He will stop at nothing to get revenage. I wonder if he will figure out what pyrE is since he is studying. What would he do with it once he figures out. -Kathryn Yacobucci
-Kathryn I agree. It shows that Gully is starting to relize he needs to improve with his education and who knows, something may come out of it and with him started to speak better, his future looks higher. -[lauryn colmer]
Page 144 "He bundled into his helicopter and took off." At first I was like What? a helicopter? If trains are obsolete due to jaunting, why would they need helicopters? Then I thought, well trains transport tings to place to place, and helicopters can transport people from place to place, but helicopters can also be used to look at things from above the ground as well. -Bryant Sell
Response: Well I think he used the helicopter to show how wealthy he is. It said in the beginning of the book the rich didn't jaunte they traveled by other people to show that they didn't have to jaunte they had people to take them. So thats why i think he took the helicopter but I don't know, thats just my thought. -Paiton Nipps
"dont jaunte. bad manners. walk slow. slowly. languor is chic. Re-spects to the Governor...To the commissioner...Their Ladies...Bien. Don't forget to tip the attendants.Not him, idiot! That's the lieutenant governor. All right. You made a hit. You're accepted. Now what?"
Page 143. As they are moving all over the world, it was funny to me to read about how different and how much attention they needed. Such as being told what to do and how to do it and to be nice and generous to everyone. Usually people are good about that but they had to tell them. - [lauryn colmer]
Page 145 "Did you ever stop to think what swearing is? You say Jesus or Jesus Christ, do you know what that is? Just swearing. Like saying ouch or damn. No, it's religion. you dont know it, but there are two thousand years of meaning behind words like that." I think its kind of sad how religion is basically lost to them in this century. Its sort of weird how in the 21 century religion is your desicion, but in years before that you had to hide, then in the 25 century its lost again. -Haley Kline
I agree with Hayley. It is weird because other people, such as Prestein, don't allow other people take the lord's name in vain. However, to Gully, swearing is his second language and he probably doesn't understand what half the swear words even mean. to me personally, I think that's sick, but it's true about a quarter of society. How many people, do you know, who swear for no reason and don't understand what they are actually saying? -Heather Gibson
i agree. that is weird. - Damian Lascoli
I also agree with both Hayley and Heather. I think that Gully Foyle is so used to swearing and stuff that he doesn't care who hears him. And i also like what Hayley said about how they sort of lost religion and that they're century they don't really care anymore. So pretty much everyone lives they way they want to and dosen't really stop and think about wrong or right or even God. -Victor Lemus.
Page 150. "That was Gully Foyle," Robin said, "burning in hell." This section of the chapter interests me. For example, I agree with Robin about Gully going to hell, but I also believe that the burning man is symbolic like the disappearing tattoo on his face. Both appear when Gully has lost his temper. Maybe the burning man is so Gully can physically see when he has gone too far. Or maybe the burning man is a warning to Gully of how his future/afterlife might turn out if he doesn't change his ways and let go of Vorga. -Heather Gibson
Pg. 143 "This is a combined operation....society and search. I think Gully wants to find information and use Forrest to do so to get to Vorga and Robin wants to search for her family. So they both need to work as a team to get what they need to find out.-Skipper
RE: I think Gully just wants to use her to find information period. He probably doesn't want to take that much time. Then again, he said he only has about 3 months until people start finding out who Geoffrey Fourmyle is. So time is precious and Robin is a smart woman. - Kaylee Goldsworthy =]
Pg.142 "The whole point of existance is to act like a fool and feel like a fool, but enjoy it." I believe this means that the whole point of living is to be yourself and don't care what other people think and do your own thing and to make everyone know that you don't care what people think of you as long as you enjoy yourself.-Skipper
Response: I agree with Skipper on this one. It seems like that he is doing a very good job of covering his identity and looking anonymous in this one and showing no guilt. He is also telling the truth because he could care less about what anyone says about him, he just wants to carry on what he's wanted to do for so long. He promised and swore he would find Vorga and he plans to, no matter what he looks like doing it. Acting and feeling like a fool is fine with him. -Mindy Hayton
Pg.145 " The twenty-fifth century had not yet abolished God, but it had abolished organized religion." I don't think God will ever be abolished. I think many people follow him and I don't think he should be abolished. It does no harm to someone who doesn't believe, by someone who does believe. -Paiton Nipps
Gully is really studying up on Vorga and his speech and likability levels are ever increasing. Robin has taught him a lot... I think pretty soon, he won't even need Robin with him because he has picked up on the "fancy lingo" of the upper class. He is evidently turning into a mad genious... if he can master speaking to people and continues studying, as long as he can keep his identity a secret, he is practically unstoppable. I am interested to see how the end of the book all folds out. -Janelle Meadows
Pg. 143:""This is a combined operation...everyway," he said with such detached savagery that she winced and at once jaunted." This line shows how much tension is still there between them working together. Robin is only in it for her family and always stresses the fact she wants nothing to do with Foyle's revenge on the man operating Vorga. This line also shows in Foyle, his extreme desperation in trying to find Vorga and how he doesnt care so much for Robin and her family. Foyle also proves in this sentence that he has come to keep him emotions more under control and not letting anger show. -Mindy Hayton
pg. 158 I am getting very confused at this point. Is Yeovil being Poggi or vice versa. I could be overlooking something but I missed it by a long shot. -Nick Kratzer
pg. 142 Fourmyle talks about wasting money on things you do not need but things you want. Fourmyle saids the point is to act like a fool and feel like a fool. You are a fool if you waste your money on things you want but not things you need. -Katelyn Broughton
i agree with this in someways. you should get what you need but it is easier getting things you want. - Damian Lascoli
pg. 143 "How interesting. You've given up rape?" i think that this line tells you about that time the Foyle was with Robin and the sence just ended. - Damian Lascoli
p.g. 148. "Jesus, no! No! No!" i found this interesting that jesus is brought up in this dialoug, especially since on p.g 145 it states: "No, it's a religion. You don't know it, but there are two thousnd years of meaning behind words like that." i feel as if in the future, if you say jesus, god, or jesus christ; it's sort of like dropping the f-bomb in this time period. i'm not sure if that's how it's supposed to be interpreted, but that is how i understood it as.- taylor cashdollar.
Page 149 I thought it was wierd when Gully killed Forrest and he didn't really care. He just wanted to go see the next person he thought would help him.-ALEX GEESEY
Response: I don't think it's weird, Gully is just focused on setting out to find who on Vorga passed up his lonely ship when he signalled for help. He is willing to do whatever it is he has to do to achieve this information, even if it means killing people ruthlessly. I don't blame Gully. He was left to rot in his ship, and he wants revenge. I hope he finds who did this to him, and gets a reasonable answer out of him. -Cullen Schimminger
Response: I'm not so sure Gully killed all his leads. It seems to me something else may be killing them before they are capable of telling Gully the valuable information. Perhaps they have been given something that stops their heart when they are about to tell him the truth? - Danielle Heininger
Response: I totally agree with Geesey on this. You think that he would feel a little guilty or scared but he acted like it was no big deal.
Page 150 "It was Gully Foyle, burning in hell." I think this says that he might die trying to kill the person that decided not to rescue him from the nomad.- ALEX GEESEY
Pg. 155 "His image stood before him, silent, ominous, face burning blood-red, clothes flaming." As Gully describes the image he sees of himself in this quote, I tried to think of what this image was. I thought of it as Gully's inner demon, the bad in himself. As Gully tries to act better by changing his character and becoming smarter, I believe this image comes to him to show him what he really is, and that he can't run from that. -Cullen Schimminger
Pg. 149 - "Christ Almighty! To see yourself... face to face... The clothes were on fire. Did you see that? What in God's name was it?" - This was said by Gully Foyle himself. He first seems alarmed to see himself burning on fire. This seems sort of like a sign to me. It's hard for me to take a guess as to what it means though. I'm just sure it symbolizes something in his future. After he says this, he then seems to go back to obsessing with Vorga, of course. So maybe the burning of him has something to do with him chasing after Vorga. Quant Suff? - Kaylee Goldsworthy =]
Pg. 148 " The tattooing appeared on Foyle's face. He forced Forrest's head back into the water and held struggling man. Robin tried to pull him off. "You're murdering him." - Why is Robin concerned that he might murder him. She is looking for her family and the only way she can do that is to get information from people. Well, then again she maybe didn't want Gully Foyle to kill him so they could get answers but i dont know. But i think Foyle knows when the point he will get murdered and pushing him to the limit until he will speak. But he dies anyway. - Victor Lemus.
Pg 145-"The twenty-fifth century had not yet abolished God,but it had abolished organized religion." This angered me when i read it, because in the furture arent people supposed to become more tolerante? I seems that in this book the furture is worse than the present. No equal rights, no freedom of religion, and theres still war. I would think that in 400 years alot more has been improved, not progressed the wrong way. Also Mr. Trimmer says that the book keeps refering Gully to being Jesus, but Gully seems to be very against religion. Or does that mean Gully will die for someone? -Kathryn Yacobucci
Response: I like the point Kathryn brings up. On just about every page or so, metaphorically or symbolically Gully Foyle is Jesus. There are so many signs that coincidentally link Gully with Jesus. On the other hand, Gully swears His name and seems to do everything against what Jesus would want us to do. The question arrises that what will Gully's fate be and who will have any influence on it. -Nicole Crossman
Response: I agree with Kathryn about how they should be more tolerante. I think we are pretty tolerante about religion now, shouldn't it just get better from here. Maybe some war happened over religion that the book doesn't mention. -Kyle Waite
I think since science is even more crucial to humans in the twenty-fifth century, it is not a suprise that religion was abolished. Scientists and people who are highly religious have very different perspectives on the topic of creation. So in the twenty-fifth century, the scientific people don't want religious people to gather and try to teach any idea other than their own scientific theories. -Casey Pipetti
I like the idea of Gully perhaps dying for someone. I see their points about religion and how scientists and people who are highly religious have different perspectives, but I'm confused about the Scientific People Gully Foyle encounters. They are referred to as the Scientific People, and we've established that scientists and religious people have quite different view points on things like creation, but it seems in the Scientific People are in a way religious. As Mr. Trimmer stated, they tattooed that mask on Gully, along with the name Nomad. Also, their leader's name is Joseph, which also has religious ties. Then, the whole thing with all the o's in everyone's name being the astronomical symbol for their gender. So then would the religious and scientific views differing contradict the beliefs of the Scientific People? - Danielle Heininger
I agree with both Kathryn and Casey. I do believe that in the book Gully is linked to Jesus and i like the point that Gully might die for someone. On the other hand i agree with Casey because i believe science has taken over the future and religion has been passed by and looked on differently.-Taylor Vladic
Pg 147-"Told you I've been studying...preparing for Vorga." Maybe something good may come out of the Vorga revenge. Gully has increased his intelligence by learning to speak better, and hes studying new topics. Since he is becoming smarter hopefully he will realize how stupid, and rude he is and will try to make up for it. This also shows how motivated Gully is. He will stop at nothing to get revenage. I wonder if he will figure out what pyrE is since he is studying. What would he do with it once he figures out. -Kathryn Yacobucci
-Kathryn I agree. It shows that Gully is starting to relize he needs to improve with his education and who knows, something may come out of it and with him started to speak better, his future looks higher. -[lauryn colmer]
Page 144 "He bundled into his helicopter and took off." At first I was like What? a helicopter? If trains are obsolete due to jaunting, why would they need helicopters? Then I thought, well trains transport tings to place to place, and helicopters can transport people from place to place, but helicopters can also be used to look at things from above the ground as well. -Bryant Sell
Response: Well I think he used the helicopter to show how wealthy he is. It said in the beginning of the book the rich didn't jaunte they traveled by other people to show that they didn't have to jaunte they had people to take them. So thats why i think he took the helicopter but I don't know, thats just my thought. -Paiton Nipps
"dont jaunte. bad manners. walk slow. slowly. languor is chic. Re-spects to the Governor...To the commissioner...Their Ladies...Bien. Don't forget to tip the attendants.Not him, idiot! That's the lieutenant governor. All right. You made a hit. You're accepted. Now what?"
Page 143. As they are moving all over the world, it was funny to me to read about how different and how much attention they needed. Such as being told what to do and how to do it and to be nice and generous to everyone. Usually people are good about that but they had to tell them. - [lauryn colmer]
Page 145 "Did you ever stop to think what swearing is? You say Jesus or Jesus Christ, do you know what that is? Just swearing. Like saying ouch or damn. No, it's religion. you dont know it, but there are two thousand years of meaning behind words like that." I think its kind of sad how religion is basically lost to them in this century. Its sort of weird how in the 21 century religion is your desicion, but in years before that you had to hide, then in the 25 century its lost again. -Haley Kline
I agree with Hayley. It is weird because other people, such as Prestein, don't allow other people take the lord's name in vain. However, to Gully, swearing is his second language and he probably doesn't understand what half the swear words even mean. to me personally, I think that's sick, but it's true about a quarter of society. How many people, do you know, who swear for no reason and don't understand what they are actually saying? -Heather Gibson
i agree. that is weird. - Damian Lascoli
I also agree with both Hayley and Heather. I think that Gully Foyle is so used to swearing and stuff that he doesn't care who hears him. And i also like what Hayley said about how they sort of lost religion and that they're century they don't really care anymore. So pretty much everyone lives they way they want to and dosen't really stop and think about wrong or right or even God. -Victor Lemus.
Page 150. "That was Gully Foyle," Robin said, "burning in hell." This section of the chapter interests me. For example, I agree with Robin about Gully going to hell, but I also believe that the burning man is symbolic like the disappearing tattoo on his face. Both appear when Gully has lost his temper. Maybe the burning man is so Gully can physically see when he has gone too far. Or maybe the burning man is a warning to Gully of how his future/afterlife might turn out if he doesn't change his ways and let go of Vorga. -Heather Gibson
Pg. 143 "This is a combined operation....society and search. I think Gully wants to find information and use Forrest to do so to get to Vorga and Robin wants to search for her family. So they both need to work as a team to get what they need to find out.-Skipper
RE: I think Gully just wants to use her to find information period. He probably doesn't want to take that much time. Then again, he said he only has about 3 months until people start finding out who Geoffrey Fourmyle is. So time is precious and Robin is a smart woman. - Kaylee Goldsworthy =]
Pg.142 "The whole point of existance is to act like a fool and feel like a fool, but enjoy it." I believe this means that the whole point of living is to be yourself and don't care what other people think and do your own thing and to make everyone know that you don't care what people think of you as long as you enjoy yourself.-Skipper
Response: I agree with Skipper on this one. It seems like that he is doing a very good job of covering his identity and looking anonymous in this one and showing no guilt. He is also telling the truth because he could care less about what anyone says about him, he just wants to carry on what he's wanted to do for so long. He promised and swore he would find Vorga and he plans to, no matter what he looks like doing it. Acting and feeling like a fool is fine with him. -Mindy Hayton
Pg.145 " The twenty-fifth century had not yet abolished God, but it had abolished organized religion." I don't think God will ever be abolished. I think many people follow him and I don't think he should be abolished. It does no harm to someone who doesn't believe, by someone who does believe. -Paiton Nipps
Gully is really studying up on Vorga and his speech and likability levels are ever increasing. Robin has taught him a lot... I think pretty soon, he won't even need Robin with him because he has picked up on the "fancy lingo" of the upper class. He is evidently turning into a mad genious... if he can master speaking to people and continues studying, as long as he can keep his identity a secret, he is practically unstoppable. I am interested to see how the end of the book all folds out. -Janelle Meadows
Pg. 143:""This is a combined operation...everyway," he said with such detached savagery that she winced and at once jaunted." This line shows how much tension is still there between them working together. Robin is only in it for her family and always stresses the fact she wants nothing to do with Foyle's revenge on the man operating Vorga. This line also shows in Foyle, his extreme desperation in trying to find Vorga and how he doesnt care so much for Robin and her family. Foyle also proves in this sentence that he has come to keep him emotions more under control and not letting anger show. -Mindy Hayton
pg. 158 I am getting very confused at this point. Is Yeovil being Poggi or vice versa. I could be overlooking something but I missed it by a long shot. -Nick Kratzer
pg. 142 Fourmyle talks about wasting money on things you do not need but things you want. Fourmyle saids the point is to act like a fool and feel like a fool. You are a fool if you waste your money on things you want but not things you need. -Katelyn Broughton
i agree with this in someways. you should get what you need but it is easier getting things you want. - Damian Lascoli
pg. 143 "How interesting. You've given up rape?" i think that this line tells you about that time the Foyle was with Robin and the sence just ended. - Damian Lascoli
p.g. 148. "Jesus, no! No! No!" i found this interesting that jesus is brought up in this dialoug, especially since on p.g 145 it states: "No, it's a religion. You don't know it, but there are two thousnd years of meaning behind words like that." i feel as if in the future, if you say jesus, god, or jesus christ; it's sort of like dropping the f-bomb in this time period. i'm not sure if that's how it's supposed to be interpreted, but that is how i understood it as.- taylor cashdollar.
Page 149 I thought it was wierd when Gully killed Forrest and he didn't really care. He just wanted to go see the next person he thought would help him.-ALEX GEESEY
Response: I don't think it's weird, Gully is just focused on setting out to find who on Vorga passed up his lonely ship when he signalled for help. He is willing to do whatever it is he has to do to achieve this information, even if it means killing people ruthlessly. I don't blame Gully. He was left to rot in his ship, and he wants revenge. I hope he finds who did this to him, and gets a reasonable answer out of him. -Cullen Schimminger
Response: I'm not so sure Gully killed all his leads. It seems to me something else may be killing them before they are capable of telling Gully the valuable information. Perhaps they have been given something that stops their heart when they are about to tell him the truth? - Danielle Heininger
Response: I totally agree with Geesey on this. You think that he would feel a little guilty or scared but he acted like it was no big deal.
Page 150 "It was Gully Foyle, burning in hell." I think this says that he might die trying to kill the person that decided not to rescue him from the nomad.- ALEX GEESEY
Pg. 155 "His image stood before him, silent, ominous, face burning blood-red, clothes flaming." As Gully describes the image he sees of himself in this quote, I tried to think of what this image was. I thought of it as Gully's inner demon, the bad in himself. As Gully tries to act better by changing his character and becoming smarter, I believe this image comes to him to show him what he really is, and that he can't run from that. -Cullen Schimminger
Pg. 149 - "Christ Almighty! To see yourself... face to face... The clothes were on fire. Did you see that? What in God's name was it?" - This was said by Gully Foyle himself. He first seems alarmed to see himself burning on fire. This seems sort of like a sign to me. It's hard for me to take a guess as to what it means though. I'm just sure it symbolizes something in his future. After he says this, he then seems to go back to obsessing with Vorga, of course. So maybe the burning of him has something to do with him chasing after Vorga. Quant Suff? - Kaylee Goldsworthy =]
Pg. 148 " The tattooing appeared on Foyle's face. He forced Forrest's head back into the water and held struggling man. Robin tried to pull him off. "You're murdering him." - Why is Robin concerned that he might murder him. She is looking for her family and the only way she can do that is to get information from people. Well, then again she maybe didn't want Gully Foyle to kill him so they could get answers but i dont know. But i think Foyle knows when the point he will get murdered and pushing him to the limit until he will speak. But he dies anyway. - Victor Lemus.